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  1. That’s how I remember mission to Kham Duc.
    I don’t believe anyone from C Co was assigned to help with security and/or clean up.

    1. Doc,
      If you are referring to the cleanup/security on LZ Judy after the Chinook was shot down then I would tell you that C Company lost Dwight “Obie” O’Brian from the blades and that C Company was assigned the unenviable task of staying by the wreckage while graves registration did their work. I was with B/2/1 at the time and my platoon was sent out to look for the VC who shot the bird down but we found nothing as I suspected and I lost two of my soldiers to punji stakes left by the trail we followed by the indigenous folks of the area to keep pigs and tigers off them as they walked the trail. One guy sat on one as we stopped at one point. Medevaced out but OK!

    2. Just to confirm Lt. Comment,we were sent down right after the chopper went down and stayed on site until all remains were recovered.Very grim experience for all who were there.We also went on patrols trying to find anyone near the crash site and I will say this ,We did find two gooks in a stream cleaning up but I need to confirm this before I say anymore.

  2. Echo Co. did have 4.2 mm mortors and 81mm. We were on the Firebases with Arty and HHC Co for security ,illumination at night and perimeter guard duty. I was at Kham Duc in August 70 and we lost a 4.2 mm squad leaving there for LZ Judy when A chinook was shot down with 28 aboard. At least 1 on the LZ was from C co and was killed by a piece of the rotor. Did not hump the 81 mm in the bush when I was transferred to C Co after 4 months on the Firebases.

  3. I am not sure how this figures into your discussion but on one mission we had a dog with us (I think it was tracker dog) and we were cutting trees down with C4 and det cord and tree hit handler in the head. I dusted him off but the dog stayed. Smokey tried to feed the dog and when he turned around dog bit him in the ass. Than the dogarage disappeared. I got hurt and was dusted off as well. When chopper come in for dust off the dog showed up from the bush.

  4. Hey Bill…..I seem to remember a Scout dog and handler coming out to the field to track a wounded VC. The enemy escaped but the dog found a bloody bandage.

      1. Bill:
        When you have a dog like Warlock the odds are in your favor. He never missed anything. Problem was some of the officers in other units didn’t want to believe what I was telling them. You have to trust his & your instincts and kill first and ask questions later. I stayed focus on Warlock behavior and try not to think about what could happen. Silva, Allen, Harper, Missar & others always had my back when I was with C 2/1. Once when with 3/21 we got ambushed when some West Pointer wouldn’t listen to Warlock and they left us with a KIA. They stated they though we were KIA also. You guys were the best!

        1. Many years ago I went to a 196th reunion I believe in the 80’s in Hampton Beach. A handler walked up to me & said he remember me. Unfortunately I did not remember him. Could that have been you?

          1. Bill:

            I think so because I was there with my son who was station at Norfolk in the Navy.

  5. Best I remember never saw mortars in my tour. You got me thinking which hurts my head. I believe they had three man mortar teams in WWII. Maybe the M-79 took there place. Always loved to see the recoilless rifle or scout dogs. Where they assigned because of the mission?

  6. I thought E platoon was a weapons platoon which included mortars. I have not seen them in the bush either during my time with Charlie Co.

      1. gARY,
        I think during our time they were attached to maybe E Company and only brought out if we stayed somewhere a long time. I do not remember anyone humping the 81s.

        1. When we went up north in April of 68, they sent a team of 3 guys carrying an 81mm mortar. One guy carried the base plate that I think weighed about 90 pounds. The guy carrying it weighed about 130 pounds. It was kicking him. One other guy carried the tube and another guy carried all other pieces. The rounds were split up among the rest of the company except for guys like me that carried the radio. Ron Causey started out in the mortar platoon that was disbanded around September of 67. So in the early days there was a mortar platoon.

  7. I updated the contact information on Doc Aleks Wolf and Jimmie Morin aka “Loco”. If your contact information is not up to date let me know and I will get it corrected.

  8. Same here. It will be kinds weird since I have not seen you or for that matter any grunts for over 40 years. You guys have an advantage in that a lot of you have kept in touch through the years. Is LT John Doreman any part of this discussion? He was my platoon leader and we shared shelter halves when in the field.

    1. I do not think I have ever seen a post from John Dorman. He has attended reunions. His contact information is on the roster section.

  9. That was first trip to the field. I was a medical liaison on LZ West and was told by my med platoon leader that I would go to the field if needed. My partner Doc Blair was not fit to be in the field. That is also how I met Doc Szydlo, and Sammy Haus, Plowboy Jr and senior and many other fine brothers. I have not been at the reunion ever I am planning to attend this year in Ohio. Looking forward to it.

    1. It’s great to hear that you will be attending. I am looking forward to finally meet you after all our email exchanges.

  10. Was with e2/1 mortors July 70 and with C 2/1 for 7 months and ets July 71. Don’t remember all that happened. Blocked memory and drugs during tour. Glad to be alive. Just got PTSD rating and diabetes disability ratings.

    1. While with C Company, were you with the mortars on Hill 151? I got sent up there to work a mortar not long before I came home in August of 71, even though I was not an 11C. The only names I can remember are a guy named Downey and Rhett something or other.

      1. Was the mortars a HHQ thing, or did each company have their own mortars? I thought Company C was a line company with their own supply and headquarter people, but I do not remember mortars.

        1. Each company had their own weapons platoon, but they were usually OPCON’d to battalion and stayed on whatever firebase HQ was on. I don’t remember ever seeing the mortars in the bush, but they could have been.

  11. I was just looking at the TAPS roster & we have 80 names & I am sure we are not aware of them all. During my tour if we had 100 to 120 we were doing good. 80 is almost a Company. I hope they are enjoying heaven as they served their time in hell.

  12. LT–that day never goes well—just seemed strange V.A. would set an appointment for that day. It was a on a TV type interview with a gal I never saw before–new to V.A. I think–and no past knowledge of me.

    1. SR
      I sincerely believe that everyone who was on that hill in the late afternoon/night of March 16, 1970 has some degree of PTSD. Thank God for flare ships or I don’t if we all might have died. Thank God Charlie missed a great opportunity to kick our butts as we were so scared and disorganized. Worst night of my life in my tour!

  13. I came across an article today in the local newspaper concerning a Navy Vet with ischemic heart disease who is trying to receive VA compensation for exposure to Agent Orange. I spoke with Sam Genco, the Vet, his claim and possibly thousands of other sailors is that they were exposed to Agent Orange through drinking water on the ships. The process used to remove the salt actually concentrated the dioxin in the drinking water. On April 5 House Resolution HR-299 will have a hearing by the House Veterans Committee. Call your congressman and ask him to vote to move this forward to the Legislative Process. The Australian Navy pays it ‘s Vets compensation the US does not. Tim Hill

  14. I got a note and a funeral document from Terry Haines wife Carole Haines. Terry was born on January 21, 1946 and passed away on February 18, 2016. She said Agent Orange effects shut down his kidneys and caused the demise of all his organs. He was buried with full military honors at Ft. Indiantown Gap National Cemetery in Annville, PA.

    Gary Capshaw told me he was the 2nd platoon leader starting about November 70 and remained in that position until probably April.

    RIP brother!

    1. Aw, that’s too bad. He was a good man. He never would come to a reunion, I think because he blamed himself for Pop’s and Gray being killed.

      Maybe now he can have some peace.


  16. yes it probably would but he wont even talk about it…He has a friend Larry Jones that was in Vietnam when he was and while he was there Hoot saved him, after many years he found hoot contacted us and came to see us and took us out to dinner very nice dinner and have been in touch ever since, I think he is coming to that reunion, he already asked and hoot said no way…we live on a farm and he does leave the farm only when he has too…as I said he doesn’t lead a normal life…but Im with you if he would come to reunion Im sure it would help…

  17. thank you I will I like talking to you guys know one else I know can understand what he goes threw every day, don’t get me wrong it is not all bad but he does have issues with life its self and he is good to me I just try and be strong for him, just wish he could lead a normal life he has missed out on a lot over the years….

    1. Kim, we have a reunion coming up in September in Cleveland. If it’s possible ,I would love to see you and Hoot. It might do him some good. Mark

  18. Yes Rick, Mark hit it right on the head, but I don’t think Hoot even knows how miserable he is, he’s been this way so long he has everything to be thankful for and still doesn’t realize it…

    1. Kim,
      I am so grateful for the things that I have in my life, Sometimes, I get kind of depressed and I can be pretty mean to those closest to me.
      Hoot had a tough time, the best that you can do is, as you have been doing, supporting him.
      It’s very hard for many Vietnam Combat vets to verbalize how they are feeling.
      We saw things that cannot be un-seen and lived through some pretty horrendous times.
      Please keep in touch.

  19. I have been reading the comments about Hoot Gibson. He was in my squad and was wounded in Hiep Duc in the middle of August 1969. We were in a trench next to each other. It was at night, and the NVA was doing it’s thing. A spooky was called in, and on it’s third run ,hit Hoot . He took three rounds. Thigh,bicep ,and forarm. The bullets went behind me, and took out my air mattress. Tooch

    1. Hi Mark, am glad to hear that you made it back home so many years ago hope Vietnam didn’t leave you as miserable as it did Hoot, oh his health is good but he has a very bad time coping with life and being normal..I never stop trying to make things better for him but nothing works…

      1. Hi Kim. Hoot is not alone in his inability to cope. Many of us are forced to deal with the same problems. Bad dreams, flashbacks,anger issues, etc………… Myself, I have been through anger management programs twice and go to therapy three times a week.All we seem to be able to do, is to minimize to some extent what we deal with. All i can say to you is Stay strong . Mark

        1. Tooch,
          Thanks for saying what you did about coping, better yet, thanks for the way you said it. You helped me see a little inside of myself, things that I just didn’t understand.

  20. March 16, 1970 will live as a day of infamy! May God bless the souls of those who died and show mercy to those still suffering 47 years later from the wounds of that day! Love you all brothers!

    Didn’t know you were back in Vietnam Ben! See you in Oregon, IL in May!

  21. Good Morning Vietnam. I see you guys found me in VN. Going to Kham Duc today and on to Da Nang tonight. Saigon tomorrow and then fly home. Will tell you about the trip with pictures at the reunion.

  22. Big blizzard in Albany, NY….State workers told to stay home, Schools all closed, US Post Offices closed. ……On a positive note, I got my medical marijuana card in the mail yesterday. I got it due to chronic leg pain from old shrapnel wounds. Has anybody else experienced medical marijuana ?


    1. Campbell??? SR what a silly question! Anyone who served under Gardner has many not so fond memories of Chicken Man!!!

      1. LT—quite true–chicken man was not fit for the bush–too much west point lifer stuff maybe.
        In his defense–he did allow me to blow up a bomb 1 time. I enjoyed that. Gardner didn`t–heard he was called on the carpet for not pre-notifying. Chuck M. was with me.

  24. Thank you brother Chuck Missar for a donation for the web site and various Charlie company expenses. Your help is much appreciated!

  25. Linda and I are visiting friends in Sebring, Fl. In town, they have a war memorial in the middle of town and I saw Capt. Dennis Smith’s name was on there. Can anyone tell me the circumstances of his death?

      1. I got them, Larry. I saw his name at the memorial in Sebring, Fl on Thursday and recognized the name but couldn’t remember the details. Thanks to all who contributed. On a different note, I just saw apicture of Ben Buehhler and 196 president Dave Eichhorn with the 2/1 interpreter, Cau, on FSB Mary Ann.


      1. Doc Wolf,
        Ed Rimmer was killed along with his LT and Rto on May 4, 1970. I go with Ben Buehler down to Oregon IL every May to help present several scholarships in his name set up by his high school classmates who thought the world of him. I had 2nd platoon prior to that operation but was restricted to Hawk Hill as I had an open wound on my leg from a black palm thorn that they cut out and the Bn Surgeon told the 2/1 commander that he wouldn’t allow me to go to the field as they wouldn’t be able to properly take care of it in the boonies. I filled the role as XO of C/2/1 during that time,

  27. Guys! Again I am starting to believe more and more in global warming. We in the Chicago area just went through Jan and Feb with only a trace of snow. This record eclipses the Cubs no World Series record as it has stood for 146 years. Up to this point we have not had an inch of snow since December 17. Tornadoes like yesterdays are also a rare phenomenon in February.

    Terry R. Just for your info a tornado touched down somewhere in the Oregon IL area where we go for the awards ceremony honoring Ed Rimmer.

    1. Climate change is “fake news” and the “alternative facts” are if you say “global warming” does not exist ten times, turn counterclockwise three times and click your heals it doesn’t.

    2. This is the first time I have seen the grass growing and some scrubs starting to get leaves in February.

    3. We just had the hottest February on record in this part of Texas. If not for my philosophical objections to mowing grass in February, that record could have been broken too.

    1. Talked to JOHN Brown SUNDAY..Said he will be going home hopefully this week,he seems upbeat given all he has been through,was nice to talk with him he was a real chatter box and I plan to keep in touch with him.I have his cell ph # if anyone wants to talk to him but he lives in the hills with only a land line when he gets home.

    1. Kim:
      I sent you an email before I saw this post that I know a Hoot Gibson. I did not know his first name, only the Hoot. Now I know who you are talking about! Welcome to Charlie Company and home!

  28. Kim Gibson:
    I served under Captain Rudolph Yap and he made it out alive. I communicate with him often. I think he would have to start any kind of award recommendation.

    I will ask you again, what was your husband’s name.

  29. if not for him the comrades he was with that made it home would not have made it…I do have other documents pertaining to that time that will show he should have it…just too much to go into right now…

  30. thanks for your answer, Mr. Harper do you have any idea on how I would go about trying to get my husband honored with this Medal I’m sure there are a lot of steps to doing this just not sure where to start.

    1. Are you Gary’s wife?
      I thought you had to be recommended for the medal by one of your commanders to be able to receive the medal. Maybe if he was recommended for it but was not awarded it you might be able to appeal the decision not to award the medal. I am not aware of any other way to get it.

      Anyone else know anything about this?

  31. I don’t really have a comment I’m asking a question, do you have to have been killed in action to warrant getting a Medal of honor…? this question is for anyone than can answer…

    I am married to one of your fellow Grunts, from what I have found out he was one of the few that made it home a lot of years ago and what I have found out was a true medal of honor would love to know how to get him this honor…thank you, also we just received this Association booklet in the mail didn’t even know it existed…

    1. You do not have to be killed in action to receive a Congressional Medal of Honor. There were 235 of these awards made during the Vietnam war. Of these awards, 164 of the guys were killed. We always kidded about the CMH award was a “casket with Metal Handles” because most of the times you were killed.

  32. 67 Friday shattered the 1880 record and 70 on Saturday broke a 1990s something record. A few more days of this and then reality sets in.

    1. Bill,
      I am hurt deeply. I know Trump holds power but we are still a country of equal opportunity & non discrimination of gender. You didn’t wish me a Happy Valentine Day!